CKers & Their Effect on the Game
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CKers & Their Effect on the Game
I'd like to start this by saying, bring on the hate, because I know I'll get it with this post. I've only been playing for a few weeks, I think my first month is officially next week at some point. During that time, I've met some trolls, some weirdos and lots of interesting people. However, hitting Arrancar last week introduced me to a side of this game I hadn't been entirely prepared for. CKers.
Now, I know that this is a PvP Game, that's why I signed up for it. For a fun, Hollow vs Shini PvP Game. But then we have Hollows, and likely Shini doing it as well, that look for people who are fresh into the rank that they, the CKers, are too afraid to leave and attacking these fresh faces. And it wouldn't be that bad if it was say, once every few days. But when it's multiple times per day, and you have to deal with those people trashtalking you for not wanting to deal with their nonsense, it borders on harassment.
I understand, from what LSM has said in Social, that there will soon be a new system in place to "punish" CKers by making it harder to kill their own faction. If I'm understanding LSM correctly, if you are killed twice in ten minutes by a member of your own race, you get thirty minutes of immunity. But that doesn't combat the biggest here, each Race needs to put their foot down and stop this nonsense.
Personally, at this point, I log into the game every four hours to Feed and then set another Extended Training. There is no point for me to be logged in, because I'll have to deal with people sitting outside my Barracks, waiting for me to go and train. I haven't done a desert battle in three days at this point, so I'm losing stats and XP daily to cowards who are too afraid of ranking up.
The part of this that takes the cake though, is you then have prominent members of a faction, Fraccion Leaders, promoting this by using the "Its a PvP Game" nonsense. Again, it -is- a PvP Game. And there is a whole seperate faction for you to fight. Any other game, people purposefully throwing the match by killing their own teammates would get timed out and then banned for repeated violations. Maybe it's time for WoB to figure out a method closer to that.
I'm not saying to remove same race PvP outright, but the lack of respect to fellow members of your own Faction, by sending a Mail and asking to PvP instead of jumping them once they get out of a Desert battle, is disgusting.
In the end, I can't wait to get to R8 as fast as possible, I'll forgo training all of my stats outright just trying to get more XP to level up faster. Then I can leave all of these children behind.
P.S. Using the excuse of "it was done to me, so I am doing it to others" is sad. If you want crap like that to stop, you have to be willing to stop yourself.
Now, I know that this is a PvP Game, that's why I signed up for it. For a fun, Hollow vs Shini PvP Game. But then we have Hollows, and likely Shini doing it as well, that look for people who are fresh into the rank that they, the CKers, are too afraid to leave and attacking these fresh faces. And it wouldn't be that bad if it was say, once every few days. But when it's multiple times per day, and you have to deal with those people trashtalking you for not wanting to deal with their nonsense, it borders on harassment.
I understand, from what LSM has said in Social, that there will soon be a new system in place to "punish" CKers by making it harder to kill their own faction. If I'm understanding LSM correctly, if you are killed twice in ten minutes by a member of your own race, you get thirty minutes of immunity. But that doesn't combat the biggest here, each Race needs to put their foot down and stop this nonsense.
Personally, at this point, I log into the game every four hours to Feed and then set another Extended Training. There is no point for me to be logged in, because I'll have to deal with people sitting outside my Barracks, waiting for me to go and train. I haven't done a desert battle in three days at this point, so I'm losing stats and XP daily to cowards who are too afraid of ranking up.
The part of this that takes the cake though, is you then have prominent members of a faction, Fraccion Leaders, promoting this by using the "Its a PvP Game" nonsense. Again, it -is- a PvP Game. And there is a whole seperate faction for you to fight. Any other game, people purposefully throwing the match by killing their own teammates would get timed out and then banned for repeated violations. Maybe it's time for WoB to figure out a method closer to that.
I'm not saying to remove same race PvP outright, but the lack of respect to fellow members of your own Faction, by sending a Mail and asking to PvP instead of jumping them once they get out of a Desert battle, is disgusting.
In the end, I can't wait to get to R8 as fast as possible, I'll forgo training all of my stats outright just trying to get more XP to level up faster. Then I can leave all of these children behind.
P.S. Using the excuse of "it was done to me, so I am doing it to others" is sad. If you want crap like that to stop, you have to be willing to stop yourself.
Alurl- Human
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Join date : 2015-05-15
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Race: Hollow
Re: CKers & Their Effect on the Game
There are few ckers on the hollow side.. And there are people who hunt ckers if they are bothering you.. I can't fix the fact that they exist but in the mean time we can help out that way.
Edit: I believe as well it an be reported in extreme cases.
Edit: I believe as well it an be reported in extreme cases.
Zerorin- Student
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Name: Zerorin
Title: Espada 9
Race: Hollow
Re: CKers & Their Effect on the Game
Just to clarify, we're talking about higher level Hollows (say rank 6, lv75) killing low level Hollows (rank 4, lv~41) right?
If you're talking about Rank Holders, that are players of another race *stares at Shinigami*, that's another issue altogether.
The main problem with this is, they're not actually doing much wrong, game system wise. They're not breaking any 'rules' just playing to game to suit an extreme agenda.
I'd suggest PM'ing your/their Espada and asking them to help/get them to stop it or alternatively, find some powerful friends that will have your back.
If you're talking about Rank Holders, that are players of another race *stares at Shinigami*, that's another issue altogether.
The main problem with this is, they're not actually doing much wrong, game system wise. They're not breaking any 'rules' just playing to game to suit an extreme agenda.
I'd suggest PM'ing your/their Espada and asking them to help/get them to stop it or alternatively, find some powerful friends that will have your back.
Last edited by WarJack on Fri May 15, 2015 7:03 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : grammar)
WarJack- Human
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Title: King of Hueco Mundo
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Re: CKers & Their Effect on the Game
I guess technically they're rank holding. At R5, or whatever Rank I am now. Level 55, at the cap for this one. But they're not in the large set of Rank Holders where it would matter. And I know they're not just doing it for PvP battles, since they already have 61 Wins, not even counting total battles.
Alurl- Human
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Re: CKers & Their Effect on the Game
WarJack wrote:I'd suggest PM'ing your/their Espada and asking them to help/get them to stop it or alternatively, find some powerful friends that will have your back.
As I said, there's not many ways you can combat the problem. It's not a violation of the rules, so game staff don't have to act. If threads like these gain enough traction however, LSM will probably do something about it.
When I was R5, I was CK'd constantly by a player called 'Arlyd_20'. Eventually, I complained to some Espada and Dormammu. It soon stopped.
Don't let the haters get you down! ^_^
WarJack- Human
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Re: CKers & Their Effect on the Game
Chainkilling of same race will be addressed in the upcoming update, this weekend.
Haruchi- Administrator
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Title: Bleh'er.
Race: Hollow
Re: CKers & Their Effect on the Game
WarJack wrote:Just to clarify, we're talking about higher level Hollows (say rank 6, lv75) killing low level Hollows (rank 4, lv~41) right?
Same-race battles are currently restricted to the same rank, rank 6 cannot fight rank 5.
Alurl is correct about the rate limiting system I'm putting in, two deaths to players of your own race within 10 minutes will provide you 30 minutes of immunity. I'm starting with that, as well as adding extra rewards (SP/FP and stats) to spars, and starting to try and move towards same-race PvP being more in spars and less in surprise attacks, slowly as I add more things to the game for people to do so that they aren't stuck with nothing to do if they can't hunt each other. An upcoming system to provide more incentive for people to go to KC should help as well, so that people will have others to hunt in KC.
Lsmjudoka- Administrator
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Re: CKers & Their Effect on the Game
That sounds pretty good xD
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