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Post by Arctic on Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:39 pm

I feel like this needs a revamp as of late, because a lot of Squad/Fraccion members have been offline for awhile. Elfsbane suggested that we implement a drop down list of actives in a squad, and i believe that another person suggested bonuses for keeping the squad seat. Also, i have my own revamp ideas and im going to incorporate all these into this post, just to show how this could work together to create a more effective squad/fraccion system.

First off, let me throw a few ideas of mine out there to get the ball rolling on this. Squad Orders as of now is kind of a pointless system. From the various squads/fraccions ive been a part of, some Captains/Espadas and Lieutenants/FC's have had some really good info on their orders, like which button to press for certain sprite in the Officer Patrol panel to optimize OP. Some put in advice for lower levels, like how to gain exp quickly or which moves to buy, ect. Now, i feel like this is a good start, but if its updated, how will the squad know? I was thinking perhaps implementing a notification system to allow the squad to know when the orders are updated. Naomi has also suggested that a notification for squad boosts would be helpful as well so that the squad members get the most out of their trainings.

Another good point Naomi and I worked out was a new Members panel to be able to see your squads various Specs chosen, and to combine this with the activity panel Elfsbane suggested. From here, you would be able to ascertain which members are active, and thus decide which Squad Boost would benefit the entirety of the Active Members of a squad. Also, Zeke brought up another good idea. He suggested that each squad member has a recorded amount of SP gained in conjunction with the Active and Spec page. The next point I will expand upon here are Seat Bonuses. As of right now, seats are basically just for show and a small percentage gain on timed trainings. A lot of us work diligently on OP to gain squad boosts, but a lot of those members just feed off of those who do all the work while they reap the benefits. So i suggest that for those who KEEP the seat for, say, a week at a time without getting kicked should get bonuses on a 3 month system. The system works as such, hashed out by myself and Naomi. The first month would be a Money Boost, the second month would be a Patrol/Feed Stat Boost, and the third month would be a Training Boost. The percentage would compound over the month, as follows: 2%, 4%, 8%, and 16%. After each month is complete, the Seat Holder will be able to be challenged by any member for a period of 3 days, and up to 5 times(can be tweaked as needed). After the 3 months is up, the Seat Holder will be auto-kicked for a day or longer(again, can be tweaked), and the seat is open to anyone who is a high enough level to claim.

Now, to address the issue presented by this. There are certain people i have encountered since i joined WoB that will not claim a seat, but kick certain people out of the seat just to spite them. Naomi and myself have again brainstormed this and came up with a solution. The person who has the seat must have 10 OP or less to be challenged, making it fair for those who work hard to keep the seats. Also, the streak could be ruined by a Captain who became negligent in doing their OP, and instead of kicking the third and lieutenant seat, He/She could 'Hop' over the two and claim the Captain seat again. However, to be able to 'Hop' seats, you must have at least 1 million more exp than the claimed seats you wish to skip over.

Hopefully, this shows how this will lead to a more effective Squad/Fraccion based system. Please feel free to add helpful insight, ideas, or constructive critisism on the ideas stated. If it is felt that a post here is not beneficial to the topic, i will delete it from the thread. Thank You.
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Written By Laxus with help from NaomiRin, Zeke, and Haruchi
Refrences from:
Elfsbane-http://worldofbleach-forum.forumotion.net/t1497-squad-hq-members-page
Legend-http://worldofbleach-forum.forumotion.net/t1181-seated-loyalty-bonuses


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Post by Legend on Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:42 pm

Yeah looks good. Would be nice to have these ideas added imo.

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Post by Sorayn on Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:48 pm

So, in theory if somebody keeps their OP constantly higher than 10, they could keep the seat forever? Or have i got it all wrong xD

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Post by Elfsbane on Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:51 pm

Agreed.. The squad HQ page needs to have more info on current members, like spec as lax said.. and even just an added column stating their last login (if that is easier to implement than the drop down box)..

I really like the idea of bonuses for keeping a seat (captains will agree it's hard work with a cap of 30 OP, except for Mr. Money aka Legs =P).. And maybe this can tie in as well with raising the OP cap for captains..

But yeah, lax covered just about everything.. =D
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Re: Squad System

Post by Elfsbane on Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:54 pm

Sorayn wrote:So, in theory if somebody keeps their OP constantly higher than 10, they could keep the seat forever? Or have i got it all wrong xD

i think this is fair.. maybe it could work in a way that if the seated officer has more than 10 OP they can't be challenged unless the challenger has like 1 or 2 mil more exp, depending on the seat in question??
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Post by Sorayn on Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:58 pm

Yeah i agree with that, if the person challenging for the seat is of a significantly higher level or something like that..
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Post by Arctic on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:16 pm

No, that defeats the purpose. If someone is actively doing OP, they are being beneficial to the squad, and therefore deserve the seat. Believe it or not, trolls exist in WoB. In example that i used above, a rank 6 user would knock off a rank 4 3rd seat, and then resign. Since we cant do this on a case by case basis, this would right that wrong. And with the 'hopping' addition, you wont have to challenge the 3rd seat to gain lieu or captain positions.
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Post by Elfsbane on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:22 pm

I see what you mean.. well in any case, it sounds fair to me..
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Re: Squad System

Post by Arctic on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:23 pm

Not sure if it was noticed or not, but Zeke brought up a spectacular idea via PMs, which is now added to my original post. To list the amount of SP gained per player on the Active/Spec Squad Member/Fraccion Member panel.
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Post by Sorayn on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:25 pm

I understand what you mean, but that would mean there'd be the same people in each squad with seats, due to the fact they'd have benefits and could be kept forever without dispute.

It's a good idea, i'm not knocking it - i'm just saying.
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Post by Arctic on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:50 pm

Haruchi and i went over what you said, Sora, and came up with a possible solution that i will add to the main post in a moment.

After each month is complete, the Seat Holder will be able to be challenged by any member for a period of 3 days, and up to 5 times(can be tweaked as needed). After the 3 months is up, the Seat Holder will be auto-kicked for a day or longer(again, can be tweaked), and the seat is open to anyone who is a high enough level to claim.


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Post by Aidan150 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:07 pm

I really like it. This is going to be great in keeping people both informed and active within the game depending on how people choose to use certain parts of these changes.

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Post by Sorayn on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:09 pm

That's a great solution imo Arc. ^^ looking forward to this if it's implemented.
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Post by Aidan150 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:15 pm

I just re-read it and I have a question. A system to keep track of each persons gain of sp is mentioned which I think is great but it doesnt seem to have a cut off time. For example does it keep tract of each persons sp/fp gained per month then reset? Or would it stay constantly to see how much they have earned for the squad since going to it?

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Post by Arctic on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:23 pm

It can be either permanent or reset after each month. Also, if implemented, the counter will start at 0 for everyone.
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Post by Aidan150 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:27 pm

well i think it would work better if it did a reset at some time because the fact that you are active doesnt mean you are getting sp there are some people that dont like to pvp all that much they just do it when they are attacked trying to train

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Post by Grimmjow on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:50 pm

I think if you can't be challenged when you have 10 OP it will make it easier to troll others and not allow them to have a seat. That means i could claim a seat that i don't deserve and all i have to do is have 10 OP to prevent someone from taking it.
If you don't want people to challenge someone for a seat beat them and then resign why don't you add a limitation to the number of times a day that you can claim a seat.
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Re: Squad System

Post by Arctic on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:51 pm

Doing 10 OP gains your squad points with which to get squad-wide boosts with. Gaining the OP is beneficial to the squad.
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Post by Grimmjow on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:55 pm

But if i only do 5 a day that doesn't benefit the squad enough for me to be able to keep a seat. That other person who can't challenge me because i have 10 OP might do more. Instead of 10 OP it should be a higher number like 20 that shows that you are trying to help your squad.
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Post by Lsmjudoka on Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:57 pm

There are a couple ideas here that wouldn't be bad. A couple others I don't like. I'll work on the tweaks and implement later.
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